[cvsnt] [update aborted]: cannot rename file over and over

Tony Hoyle tmh at nodomain.org
Sat Dec 7 00:08:18 GMT 2002

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Paul St. John wrote:

> Now, I'm not sure whose fault that was (or this issue is), and I'm
> no expert on how virus protection s/w works (I know some of the
> concepts, but not the ins and outs).  However, it would seem to
> me that they are playing in a field that might be more prone to
> these sorts of issues (system wide, low-level type stuff)

I don't see the purpose of checking *every* file that gets created,
especially when you do it so poorly it breaks the OS. 

> The *vast* majority of the time Norton causes no problem, and as
> a software developer that has seldom, if ever, written a perfect
> application myself, I'm a little hesitant to start throwing stones.

I expect more of commercial software.  I've made some really bad
errors myself but have fixed them in days (for the really biggies hours).

There is a bug in Norton that interacts badly with VC and causes file
deletion - it's not been fixed for two years (the latest reports are
saying it happens with VS.NET).

The TCP/IP breakage took them about 6 months to sort out.  They never
publicly acknowledged it (I never got a reply from any of my emails asking
about it, either).  Basically they didn't give a damn.  I don't expect any
better response about this one...  Unless you have a corporate contract
they don't care.

> For a piece of software that is running *all* the time, keeps itself
> updated and protects me from all sorts of untold evils, I think 2
> issues in over 2 years is something I can live with.

Don't get me started on that... those people peddle fear, nothing more. 
There are probably not more than a dozen viruses actually in circulation,
and the most effective antivirus protection doesn't cost money... simply
bounce executable attachments at the mailserver - cost $0, and works with
all email viruses present and future.  You can catch any stragglers with
something like AVG (also $0, not that you really need it)

Last time I was quoted for Norton for the corporate mail server they wanted
more than $10,000 per year.  When I told the boss he nearly fell off his
chair laughing....  we'd been running an old free release of mcafee for 4
years and it was working fine.


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