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Oliver Giesen wrote: > Currently, after the Update -k you effectively have uncommitted changes > in your sandbox. Yet, cvs status still reports the file as up-to-date > (that's why the -f is required on commit after all) and if you don't > commit right away for some reason it's quite easy to miss this. Could > there maybe be some way to make this more transparent? E.g. changing > the timestamp info in the Entries file to something like "Pending > option change" when the cvs up -k is done? Actually the -f requirement is for compatibility.... it's not uncommon to do an update -k to export a sandbox without keywords for example... if that sandbox is then committed it'd reset all the expansions - the -f requirement means you can't do that accidentally (not sure if I implemented it fully in 2.0.58... it was one of those things I thought of much later). Remember that on older CVS the admin -k option is destructive - any revisions stored using the older expansion will now have the new one (and may therefore be incorrect). CVSNT pre-2.0.58 has a slightly less severe version of this problem in that you can only have a single default -k option for every branch of the file. It's worth mentioning this probably in the help for any option that wraps expansion changes. > Furthermore, the commandline reference for cvs up -A reads "Reset any > sticky tags/date/kopts.". Yet, this is obviously no longer true (not > sure if it ever was). You cannot reset the k-option once you've done > the cvs update -k . AFAICT the only way to undo that without knowing > what the previous k-option was is releasing the folder and checking it > out anew... or am I missing something? It's probably never made much sense - it could do now (IMO up -A should reset to the original expansion for that option) - it needs sorting out one way or the other. Tony