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Hi Tony, Here is a small tidbit that might help troubleshoot the "renaming problem" as I experienced it during a recent upgrade attempt. I had upgraded from CVSNT 2.0.8 to 2.0.58b. The developers were using WSAD 5.0.x and 5.1.2 and getting the "unable to rename file" error that others have posted here. I received the same error using the command line client provided by CVSNT 2.0.58b. This happened for any file I tried to change and commit that had existed in the repository prior to the upgrade. But if I added a new file, I could successfully change and commit (no renaming error reported). So if you're attempting to reproduce the problem, perhaps comparing permissions of new files stored in a repository created under a prior version might provide a clue. Good luck, - Paul