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Eric, > Is there no way to get either the WM from 2.5 build or from > the EVS build to > work without being forced to use the installer? It's not the installer - if you use the 'bin' package it'll work provided everything is in one directory or on the PATH. WM needs every CVSNT DLL to work correctly (except if you are using SSPI you don't need PSERVER etc). WMfree is an example of how to call the CVSNT API - hence you need the entire API. To avoid DLL hell all CVSNT programs check the version of the DLL on startup, so CVSNT 2.5.03.2382 will not load CVSNT 2.5.03.2383 DLLs. In 2.5.04 the signature is also checked as explained in the release notes. Regards, Arthur