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Hello David, Monday, August 1, 2005, 2:11:03 PM, you wrote: --- shnipp --- >> So it looks like Tony has chnged something within the ssl protocoll... DS> Or rather, the protocol is the same, but he's now trying to do a bit more at DS> the application level (validation of server/client certificates by the DS> looks of it). Looks like he is currently modifying the server -- now I get: Server certificate verification failed: self signed certificate in certificate chain BTW. Why is a self signed certificate a cause for failing?? At the moment at one of my customers I use a self signed certificate exlusively :( -- Best regards, Richard mailto:richard at wirthware.de