[cvsnt] Using CVSNT with repository on SAMBA drive

David McAvoy David.McAvoy at PerComm.com
Wed Aug 28 18:35:15 BST 2002

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Hi Bo,

Thanks for the comments!

I agree, it's not necessary to backup working copies
if developers are consistent in committing or
checkpointing changes back to the repository on a
regular basis.

I was concerned about the repository itself and how
moving critical data from the standard file server onto
a stand alone PC reduces the consistency and ease
of administration of the backup and file system

By the way, I meant to say "fork", instead of "exec"...


"Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund at telia.com> wrote in message
news:mh1omu0qui33kqt9bha001ft5brm8scuiv at 4ax.com...
> I think that if the developers commit their stuff regularly (when they
> leave at night) then there is really no need for a workstation backup
> to be done. I assume that your repository on the W2000 box *will* be
> backed up nightly of course.
> This is how I have been running my shop for 18 months now with 5-8
> developers using CVS. No problems so far, but I use the CVSMailer
> program to monitor activity so I can see when a lazy developer does
> not commit so I can tell him.
> A side effect of having the sandbox locally is that all compiles and
> builds speed up something wonderful. No time to go for coffee or smoke
> during a build anymore...
> If you are really not wanting developers to commit daily changes
> (why?) then you could set up a backup task on each workstation to run
> at night. You could use the backup that is shipped with W2000 and
> WinXP and target a file on the samba server or another Windows server)
> as the volume to backup to. This will create a backup file on the
> server which can in turn be backed up to tape. This way you will get
> all backups you need. Of course the developers must leave the
> workstations switched on nightly for this scheme to work.
> /Bo
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:55:33 -0700, "David McAvoy"
> <David.McAvoy at PerComm.com> wrote:
> >Hi (Tony, Bo),
> >
> >Thanks for the info... By the way, how do you manage backing up files on
> >distributed
> >PC's?  That's why having the repository and its working copies on a file
> >server is
> >desirable in this case.
> >
> >Also, I discovered that other applications such as emacs have no problem
> >deleting files
> >called ",Makefile," etc. from the Samba drive, so it appears that Samba
> >not
> >necessarily the problem in this case, although with my limited resources
> >can only test on
> >Samba shares and regular Windows 2K shares (which work).  Also, if one
> >a file
> >name such as ",Makefile," in the PC shell one must use quotes to escape
> >otherwise it
> >is rejected as an invalid file name.
> >
> >Please don't take my comment above as indicating that I don't
> >understand/value
> >your comments about file locking and such.  I appreciate your comments on
> >the
> >matter and will move the repository to the service machine.  However,
> >will probably
> >cause a lot of backup issues!
> >
> >I did read your previous comments regarding this issue and unfortunately
> >thought you
> >were referring to the instance in which "exec", style of access was used
> >obtain access
> >to a repository shared to the users computer.  I didn't realize that you
> >were referring
> >to the NT service accessed through the "sspi" or other mechanism.  I
> >this means
> >that the service is serving CVS commands from users in a multi-threaded
> >manner?
> >
> >By the way Tony, did you notice you are sending three replies to
> >
> >Thanks for the help everyone,
> >  David.
> >
> >
> >"Tony Hoyle" <tmh at nothing-on.tv> wrote in message
> >news:3D6BDEDD.8010404 at nothing-on.tv...
> >> David McAvoy wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I use CVS NT with repository on SAMBDA drive, however naming
> >> > causes issues with ,Makefile, etc. RCS file locks when CVS NT server
> >tries
> >> > to
> >> > delete them from repository.
> >>
> >> Do not do this.
> >>
> >> > Does anyone have any suggestions regarding an smb.conf file that
> >allow
> >> > the
> >> > samba server to work with files of this type?
> >>
> >> Don't do it.  It won't work.  Use a server talking to its own local
> >> drive instead.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >
> /Bo
> (Bo Berglund, developer in Sweden)

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