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> down. The standard advice to uninstall the AV seems to work > 90% of the > time... beyond that I can't really help. ...And uninstall "personal firewalls", as I think they have caused more breakage than AV in recent memory. You could try running cvsservice in debug mode (I think it's "cvsservice -t" or something like that) to see if you're seeing an incoming connection. There are a couple normal complaints about Kerberos when it starts up in test mode if you aren't on an AD system which is nothing to be concerned about. Regards, Glen Starrett