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I run cvs -nq update twice, and get different results. The first set is wrong, the second is right. During the first update, I modified a file in the score directory. It doesn't appear in the list (I wouldn't expect it to), but from that point on cvs generated the warnings instead of the modified messages. Even a trivial change such as adding and deleting a space so the file is exactly the same but the mod time changes causes the issue. My 1.11.17 client seems to handle it correctly. Thanks chuck Client: Concurrent Versions System (CVSNT) 2.0.41a (client/server) Server: Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.11.16 (client/server) ------------------- M stn/dlapps/epcell/epcoff.mc M stn/score/lcell.c cvs update: warning: stn/score/privinc/sielems.h was lost cvs update: warning: stn/score/privinc/ilstyle.fdf was lost cvs update: warning: stn/score/sharelib/shcell.c was lost ------------------- M stn/dlapps/epcell/epcoff.mc M stn/score/lcell.c M stn/score/privinc/sielems.h M stn/score/privinc/ilstyle.fdf M stn/score/sharelib/shcell.c