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That's the local user setting. You need to find the system setting. Services do not invoke bash. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Bliss [mailto:abliss at brockport.edu] Sent: Wed 12/5/2007 1:11 PM To: Tony Hoyle Cc: Subject: Re: [cvsnt] some questions on getting cvsnt working on a redhat box [abliss at cvs1 ~]$ cat /etc/bashrc | grep umask umask 002 umask 022 It seems that cvsnt is not getting this value from the server. Aaron