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>>>> Thanks Bo, I was afraid of that. So, here is what I'm going to do: I'm going to design a robustness test in perl that commits from one directory and updates to <<<< Tony has a modified version of the CVS stress script, I think it's called "insanity" or similar. >>>> It's stupid to run AV on the sever, but again it's not my call. We have to live with the drawbacks to enjoy the benefits of our paranoid IS department :-) <<<< Maybe you should feed them more... tell them the only truly secure system is completely unconnected in a metal cage (to prevent EM transmission / reception)... That is the ONLY way to be certain you won't get viruses. And *BSD is worlds more secure than any windows platform anyway... If they are TRULY concerned with security, they should know not to layer more software on a buggy OS, but to get a new OS that is secure by design. On the other hand, if you do approach them with a reproducible problem with McAfee then perhaps you can convince THEM to go to McAfee and demand a fix for their inferior product. Glen Starrett